id,summary,reporter,owner,description,type,status,priority,milestone,component,version,severity,resolution,keywords,cc 3149,Usability: Understanding the Tools / Forums / Upgrade tab,jrf,johnjamesjacoby,"I've got a few questions about the Tools -> Forums ""Upgrade"" tab from a usability perspective. On a brand new bbPress install, i.e. the tables have just been created and are still (mostly) empty, the tab displays and lists a number of actions. Running each of these actions - of course - gives ""nothing to do"" responses, but the actions are not taken off the page. 1. Why do actions display when they will have no effect / are unnecessary to run ? 2. Why does the tab display when there are no actions which would have any effect ? As a user, the tab feels like something I'd ""need to do"" as keeping up to date is important, but as the tab, nor the actions, do not go away after having run them, their importance is diminished. For me, this would mean that I would in the future disregard the tab / not look at it again and not action anything on it (unless maybe specifically pointed to it through an admin notice). This net effect seem to be to counter to the importance of keeping the database schema up to date and to have the opposite of the intended effect. ",defect (bug),new,normal,2.8,General,trunk,normal,,ux-feedback,johnjamesjacoby jrf